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Notes Hans Talhoffer Paulus Kal Cluny Fechtbuch (Cl. 23842) Peter Falkner Glasgow Fechtbuch Goliath Jörg Wilhalm Hans Medel
Folio 12r

15 Listen to what is wrong,
do not fight above on the left if you are righthanded;

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16 and if you are left-handed,
on the right you limp as well.
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Folio 12v

27 Who strikes at you above,
the Wrath stroke threatens him with the point.

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28 If he becomes aware of it,
take it away above without fear.
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Folio 13r

29 Be strong against it;
wind, thrust. If he sees that, take it down.

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Folio 14v

30 Note this:
strike, thrust, posture, soft or hard,
31 Instantly, and Before and After.
Your War should not be in haste.

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36 Four openings know,
aim: so you hit certainly,
37 without any danger
without regard for how he acts;
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Folio 15r

38 If you want to avenge yourself,
break the four openings with skill:
39 double above,
transmute below correctly.

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Folio 15v
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Folio 16r

42 Crooked on him with nimbleness,
throw the point on the hands.

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Folio 16v
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Folio 17r

43 Who performs the crooked well,
with stepping he hinders many a stroke.

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Folio 17v
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44 Hew crooked to the flats of
The masters if you wish to weaken them.
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45 When it sparks above
So stand aside, that I will laud.

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46 Crooked not, Short-hew.
Changing-through therewith show.
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Folio 18r

49 The Thwart Stroke takes
whatever comes from the roof.

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Folio 18v

Counter to the Zwerch

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50 Thwart with the strong,
note your work with this.
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Folio 19r

51 Thwart to the Plow;
to the Ox hard together.

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Folio 19v


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Folio 20r

52 He who thwarts well
with springing he endangers the head.

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Folio 20v

53 Whoever conducts the Failer
from below he hits at his will.

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Folio 21r


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Folio 21v

54 The Reverser enforces the
running through and also brings wrestling.
55 The elbow take certainly,
spring into his balance.

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Folio 22r


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Folio 22v

56 Double the Failer,
if you hit, also make the slice.

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Folio 23r


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Folio 23v

57 Twice further on,
step to the left and do not be slow.

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Folio 24r


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Folio 24v

58 The Squinter breaks into
whatever a buffalo strikes or thrusts.
59 Who threatens to change through,
the Squinter robs him of it.

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Folio 25r
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Folio 25v

60 Squint when he is short against you,
changing through defeats him.

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Folio 26r

61 Squint to the point,
and take the throat without fear.

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Folio 26v

62 Squint to the head above
if you want to damage the hands.

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Folio 27r

63 The Scalper
is a danger to the face,
64 with its turn,
very dangerous to the breast.

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Folio 27v

65 Whatever comes from him,
the Crown will take it.

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Folio 28r

66 Slice through the Crown,
thus you will break it hard through.

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Folio 28v

67 Press the strokes,
with slices pull them away.

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Folio 29r

68 Four guards alone hold;
and disdain the common.
69 Ox, Plow, Fool,
From the Roof should not be unknown to you.

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Folio 29v
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Folio 30r

72 If you are parried
and when that has happened,
73 hear what I advise to you:
Tear away and strike quickly with surprise.

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Folio 30v
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Folio 31r

Another counter against the parrying

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Folio 31v

74 Set upon the four ends.
Stay upon them, learn if you want to bring it to an end.

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Folio 32r
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Folio 32v
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Folio 33r
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Folio 33v
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Folio 34r

75 Learn the chasing
twice, or slice into the weapon.

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76 Two outer intentions.
The work after that begins.
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79 Travel-after twofold.
One hits, make with the Ancient Slice.
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Folio 34v

80 Who wants to strike below,
overrun him, and he will be shamed.
81 When it clashes above,
then strengthen: this I truly do praise.
82 Do your work,
or press hard twice.

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Folio 35r

83 Learn to set aside,
To skillfully hinder stroke and thrust.
84 Who thrusts at you,
your point hits and counters his.

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85 From both sides
hit every time if you want to step.
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Folio 35v

86 Learn the changing through
from both sides, thrust with intent.
87 Whoever binds to you,
changing through will find him indeed.

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Folio 36r

88 Step close in binding.
The pulling provides good finds.

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Folio 36v

89 Pull - if he meets, pull more.
Find the work that will hurt him.
90 Pull in all encounters
against the Masters, if you want to fool them.

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Folio 37r

91 Run through, let hang
with the pommel. Grasp if you want to wrestle.
92 Who comes strongly at you,
the running through then remember.

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Folio 37v
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Folio 38r
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Folio 38v
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Folio 39r
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Folio 39v
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Folio 40r
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Folio 40v
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Folio 41r
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Folio 41v
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Folio 42r
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Folio 42v
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Folio 43r

93 Slice off the hard ones,
from below in both attacks.

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Folio 43v
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Folio 44r

94 Four are the slices:
two below and two above.

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Folio 44v

95 Turn your edge,
press the hands to the flats.

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Folio 45r

98 Do the Speaking Window,
stand blithely and look at his actions.

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Folio 45v

99 Strike him until he is defeated.
When he withdraws from you,

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Folio 46r

96 There are two hangings
from one side from the ground.

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Folio 46v

97 In all attacks
strike, thrust, posture - soft or hard.

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Notes Hans Talhoffer Paulus Kal Cluny Fechtbuch (Cl. 23842) Peter Falkner Glasgow Fechtbuch Goliath Jörg Wilhalm Hans Medel
Folio 47r

"Here begin Peter's devices: the sword-taking with counters and grappling. This is painted according to the Recital, or according to the Running Through [found in?] the Recital."

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Folio 47v
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Folio 48r
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Folio 48v
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Folio 49r
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Folio 49v
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Folio 50r
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Folio 50v
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Folio 51r
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Folio 51v
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Folio 52r
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Folio 52v
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Folio 53r
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Folio 53v
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Folio 54r
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Folio 54v
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Folio 55r
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Folio 55v
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Folio 56r
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Folio 56v
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Folio 57r
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Folio 57v
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