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In order to earn the prese I am prepared&emsp;<br/>
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I am prepared to gain the holds;&emsp;<br/>
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If I do not deceive you, you will have a good deal.&emsp;<br/>
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If I don't deceive you, you'll have a bargain.&emsp;<br/>
 
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Of the changed fight I look to make&emsp;<br/>
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I seek to make a change to the fight,&emsp;<br/>
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And with this to ground I will make you go.&emsp;<br/>
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And with that, I'll make you go to the ground.&emsp;<br/>
 
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If with cunning you will not conquer me, I believe,&emsp;<br/>
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If you don't defeat me with cunning, I believe&emsp;<br/>
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That with my strength I will make you ill and worse.&emsp;<br/>
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That I'll do bad and worse to you with my strength.&emsp;<br/>
 
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With the arms I come with them well forward&emsp;<br/>
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I come with my arms well-extended like this&emsp;<br/>
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In order to win the prese in every way.&emsp;<br/>
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In order to gain holds in every way.&emsp;<br/>
 
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✅{{par|r}} I am certainly prepared that I, myself, gain the grasps.<ref>This line and the last line of the 4th couplet share an identical fragment in both the Latin and the Italian; however, it is not possible to render the two identically in fluent English.</ref>
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This will be beneficial for a short time, if I don't deceive you
  
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✅{{par|b}} I seek to shift to a place<ref>'muto' can  mean simply to change/shift, or to change/shift to/from a location. Due to 'hinc' in the following line, a change of location seemed apt.</ref> from which I would be able to deceive you completely.
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From here, I will, by hastening, turn you by the chest through the ground.
  
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✅{{par|b}} If you will not succeed with a clever trick, I can indeed believe
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[that] you yourself will suffer much the worse<ref>Although 'multa pessima' are plural in Latin, much is singular in English. English also uses a comparative where Latin uses a superlative.</ref>  due to my strength.
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✅{{par|r}} Behold, I come, seeking to overcome [you] with extended arms;
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In order that I, myself, gain powerful grasps through wrestling play.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 19:04, 20 August 2025

Latin 38v

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Vt mihi prensuras lucrer, sum nempe paratus.
Si te non fallo poterit prodesse parumper.

Querito mutare[1] quo te confallere possim.
Hinc te per terram properanti pectore vertam.

Si non ingenio vinces quidem credere possum
viribus ipse[2] meis patieris pessima multa.

En venio tensis cupiens superare lacertis.[3]
Ut mihi prensuras lucrer ludendo potentes.

Italian

I am prepared to gain the holds; 
If I don't deceive you, you'll have a bargain. 

[4a-a] Per guadagnar le prese e son aparichiato,
Se non te ingano, tu harai bon merchato.

I seek to make a change to the fight, 
And with that, I'll make you go to the ground. 

[4a-b] De pugna mutacion cercho de'fare
E cum quella in terra ti faro andare.

If you don't defeat me with cunning, I believe 
That I'll do bad and worse to you with my strength. 

[4a-c] Se per inçegno non me vinceraii zo creço
Che cum mia força ti faro male e peço.

I come with my arms well-extended like this 
In order to gain holds in every way. 

[4a-d] Cum li braci vegno acusi ben destese
Per guadagnar in ogni modo le prese.

English 38v

 
✅ I am certainly prepared that I, myself, gain the grasps.[4]
This will be beneficial for a short time, if I don't deceive you

✅ I seek to shift to a place[5] from which I would be able to deceive you completely.
From here, I will, by hastening, turn you by the chest through the ground.

✅ If you will not succeed with a clever trick, I can indeed believe
[that] you yourself will suffer much the worse[6] due to my strength.

✅ Behold, I come, seeking to overcome [you] with extended arms;
In order that I, myself, gain powerful grasps through wrestling play.

  1. ↑ Added later: "pro".
  2. ↑ Added later: "scilicet tu".
  3. ↑ It looks like the period maybe was changed to a slash/comma.
  4. ↑ This line and the last line of the 4th couplet share an identical fragment in both the Latin and the Italian; however, it is not possible to render the two identically in fluent English.
  5. ↑ 'muto' can mean simply to change/shift, or to change/shift to/from a location. Due to 'hinc' in the following line, a change of location seemed apt.
  6. ↑ Although 'multa pessima' are plural in Latin, much is singular in English. English also uses a comparative where Latin uses a superlative.

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