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'''Andres Juden''' (Andres "the Jew"), '''Jobs von der Nissen''', '''Nicklass Preußen''', and the priest '''Hans Döbringer''' are four [[nationality::German]] [[fencing master]]s who stood in the tradition of [[Johannes Liechtenauer]] in the 14th or [[century::15th century]]. None of these men is mentioned by [[Paulus Kal]] as being a member of the [[Fellowship of Liechtenauer]] with the possible exception of Andres the Jew (which could be a reference to [[Andre Liegniczer]]). Attributed to these four masters is an addendum to Liechtenauer's [[Recital]] on the [[long sword]] which offers advice on fencing and discusses techniques from a position called [[iron gate]] (''Eisen Pforte''). [[Andre Paurnfeyndt]] also treated fencing from this guard in his treatise (sometimes included as an addendum to the gloss of [[Sigmund ain Ringeck]]), but there is little technical overlap between the two works.
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'''Andres Juden''' (Andres "the Jew"), '''Jobs von der Nissen''', '''Nicklass Preußen''', and the priest '''Hans Döbringer''' are four [[nationality::German]] [[fencing master]]s who stood in the tradition of [[Johannes Liechtenauer]] in the 14th or [[century::15th century]]. None of these men is mentioned by [[Paulus Kal]] as being a member of the [[Fellowship of Liechtenauer]] with the possible exception of Andres the Jew (which could be a reference to [[Andre Lignitzer]]). Attributed to these four masters is an addendum to Liechtenauer's [[Recital]] on the [[long sword]] which offers advice on fencing and discusses techniques from a position called [[iron gate]] (''Eisen Pforte''). [[Andre Paurñfeyndt]] also treated fencing from this guard in his treatise (sometimes included as an addendum to the gloss of [[Sigmund ain Ringeck]]), but there is little technical overlap between the two works.
  
 
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| <p>[12] And better aim for the high openings than the low, and move in over his hilt and remember the already written teaching. First of all so that you gain the Vorschlag and as soon as you do it so do the Nachschlag with moving in. And do these without delay in between just as if you would do them both at the same time if possible and permanently do one after another quickly and bravely, so that if one misses the other hits, so that your adversary does not come to strikes.</p>
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| class="noline" | <p>[12] And better aim for the high openings than the low, and move in over his hilt and remember the already written teaching. First of all so that you gain the Vorschlag and as soon as you do it so do the Nachschlag with moving in. And do these without delay in between just as if you would do them both at the same time if possible and permanently do one after another quickly and bravely, so that if one misses the other hits, so that your adversary does not come to strikes.</p>
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Revision as of 23:21, 3 June 2020

Ettlicher Maistern Gefechte
The Other Fencing Masters
Author(s)
Date late 1300s (?)
Language Early New High German
Manuscript(s)
First Printed
English Edition
Żabiński, 2008
Concordance by Michael Chidester
Translations

Andres Juden (Andres "the Jew"), Jobs von der Nissen, Nicklass Preußen, and the priest Hans Döbringer are four German fencing masters who stood in the tradition of Johannes Liechtenauer in the 14th or 15th century. None of these men is mentioned by Paulus Kal as being a member of the Fellowship of Liechtenauer with the possible exception of Andres the Jew (which could be a reference to Andre Lignitzer). Attributed to these four masters is an addendum to Liechtenauer's Recital on the long sword which offers advice on fencing and discusses techniques from a position called iron gate (Eisen Pforte). Andre Paurñfeyndt also treated fencing from this guard in his treatise (sometimes included as an addendum to the gloss of Sigmund ain Ringeck), but there is little technical overlap between the two works.

Treatise

Additional Resources

References

  1. Word order reversed, the correct order indicated by markings is used here.
  2. The rest of the line disappears in the binding
  3. Does not expect your attack
  4. * the text says "Pfobenzagel" yet the description is that of the Krauthacke.