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<p>'''Gloss:''' This is when someone lays before you in his stance in the plow or ox. That is, when he stands with the right foot forward and lies with his sword out forward with the point on the ground. So fall upon that above<ref>alt: high</ref> with the thwart. Thereafter work in that, into the opening as it gives itself or war. But if he moves the weapon up to the head into the fool, then you may again set-upon that and work. War. Also in the same way, if someone sets upon you from the thwart or crooked hew, then remain on his sword and work in the after as in the last stance of the plow with the after.</p>
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<p>'''Gloss:''' This is when someone lays before you in his stance in the plow or ox. That is, when he stands with the right foot forward and lies with his sword out forward with the point on the ground. So fall upon that above<ref>alt: high</ref> with the thwart. Thereafter work in that, into the opening as it gives itself or war. But if he moves the weapon up to the head into the fool, then you may again sit-atop<ref>aufsitzen: to sit on top of something. A rider was sometimes called an 'Aufsitzer'</ref> that and work. War. Also in the same way, if someone sets upon you from the thwart or crooked hew, then remain on his sword and work in the after as in the last stance of the plow with the after.</p>
 
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| <p>Also do as others say: If you stand with the left foot forward in the squinter and he holds the point long or short against your face, then squint at the point and act as if you will strike into that and strike upon his sword with the short edge and with that shoot-in the point long into the right side of his neck without fear, though also step past with your right foot. War. But if you wish to take the before, then set-upon him crooked, then again strike quickly from the sword with the short edge into his left side. War.</p>
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| <p>Also do as others say: If you stand with the left foot forward in the squinter and he holds the point long or short against your face, then squint at the point and act as if you will strike into that and strike upon his sword with the short edge and with that shoot-in the point long into the right side of his neck without fear, though also step past with your right foot. War. But if you wish to take the before, then sit-atop him crooked, then again strike quickly from the sword with the short edge into his left side. War.</p>
 
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| <p>'''The other''' inner cattle-drive is when he stands with the left foot forward and holds his sword as before, though it must be crooked to the side, then deploy the work against him as before just above. When it is turned to the side, you will again break the pulling then double or mutate as it best joins according to the work or side, thus he will be struck deaf, etc. or cutd. You may also, as before, if you do not wish to break the counter the cattle-drive, working the stance or cattle-drive with other things against that such as the thwart or the wrath-hew or other offsettings or settings-on and then work as you wish, etc.</p>
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| <p>'''The other''' inner cattle-drive is when he stands with the left foot forward and holds his sword as before, though it must be crooked to the side, then deploy the work against him as before just above. When it is turned to the side, you will again break the pulling then double or mutate as it best joins according to the work or side, thus he will be struck deaf, etc. or cut. You may also, as before, if you do not wish to break the counter the cattle-drive, working the stance or cattle-drive with other things against that such as the thwart or the wrath-hew or other offsettings or sittings-atop and then work as you wish, etc.</p>
 
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<p>'''Master Hans' Gloss:''' This so that you shall learn to offset artfully disrupting hew, thrust also breaking point thusly: If someone hews or thrusts against you, plainly offsetting and breaking strike and point from all positions and hews or stances and setting-upon from all sides as they encroach you and hitting the point with your point or sword and offsetting well and from that make a strike-in above with the short edge to the head to whichever side it then gives itself up. Thereafter work in-the-moment with the after and war.</p>
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<p>'''Master Hans' Gloss:''' This so that you shall learn to offset artfully disrupting hew, thrust also breaking point thusly: If someone hews or thrusts against you, plainly offsetting and breaking strike and point from all positions and hews or stances and sittings-atop from all sides as they encroach you and hitting the point with your point or sword and offsetting well and from that make a strike-in above with the short edge to the head to whichever side it then gives itself up. Thereafter work in-the-moment with the after and war.</p>
 
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| <p>'''Work from the scalper, plunge or fool according to Master Hans with the after.'''</p>
 
| <p>'''Work from the scalper, plunge or fool according to Master Hans with the after.'''</p>
  
<p>'''First:''' Work from the scalper, plunge or fool according to Master Hans with the after. If you lay before the opponent in the scalper hanging flat as stands above and if you await the work of the opponent against you, if he will then strike-into with an over-hew to your left side or opening, then stand still and go-up straight with the thwart into the left side of his head, thereafter he<ref>alt: it</ref> is open with an unchanged sword. War if it becomes necessary to do.</p>
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<p>'''First:''' Work from the scalper, plunge or fool according to Master Hans with the after. If you lay before the opponent in the scalper hanging flat as stands above and if you await the work of the opponent against you, if he will then initiate a strike with an over-hew to your left side or opening, then stand still and go-up straight with the thwart into the left side of his head, so that he is open with an uninverted sword. War if it becomes necessary to do.</p>
 
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| <p>'''The second:''' If he then sets upon your sword with his over-hew and strikes back around with an under-hew or otherwise to your right side, then follow-after him swiftly in-the-moment with the stance or extended sword and thrust into his face with whatever you can. War if it becomes necessary. You may well also change-through as soon as he sets-on and thrust into his right side. Thereafter strike to his left.</p>
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| <p>'''The second:''' If he then sits atop your sword with his over-hew and strikes back around with an under-hew or otherwise to your right side, then follow-after him swiftly in-the-moment with the stance or extended sword and thrust into his face with whatever you can. War if it becomes necessary. You may well also change-through as soon as he sits-atop and thrust into his right side. Thereafter strike to his left.</p>
 
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| <p>{{handr}} Item. In everything after as you come in<ref>alt: inside</ref> you shall remain standing thusly and not turn and work it in-the-moment, then ruin the work of another with striking or mutating however the opponent then holds himself against you.</p>
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| <p>{{handr}} Item. In every after as you come in<ref>alt: inside</ref> you shall remain standing thusly and not turn and work it in-the-moment, then ruin the work of another with striking or mutating however the opponent then holds himself against you.</p>
 
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| <p>'''The third:''' If you stand as before and he will change-through you then drive after and step into him and wind-in crooked to his head. War if it is necessary. For one shall wind out after crooked against all changings-through.</p>
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| <p>'''The third:''' If you stand as before and he will change-through you then drive after and tread into him and wind-in crooked to his head. War if it is necessary. For one shall wind out after crooked against all changings-through.</p>
 
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| <p>'''The fourth:''' If you stand as before and he sets-on crooked so that you shall strengthen against him, if he will then strike to the opening of your left side, then follow after him with the war and sword upon his right shoulder and lay your sword upon his neck. If he will then ward that, then ward yourself again in-the-moment with the war according to the work as it demands. War if it is necessary or always follow after him gently, so he cannot become surely free.</p>
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| <p>'''The fourth:''' If you stand as before and he sits-atop you crooked so that you shall strengthen against him, if he will then strike to the opening of your left side, then follow after him with the war and sword upon his right shoulder and lay your sword upon his neck. If he will then ward that, then ward yourself again in-the-moment with the war according to the work as it demands. War if it is necessary or always follow after him gently, so he cannot become surely free.</p>
 
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| <p>'''The third:''' When you stand as before and he stands forward in the speaking-window or the guard from-the-roof, then go up against him with the wrath-point into his face. If he then sets upon your sword, then you may well in-the-moment wind-in crooked with a step or as soon as he sets-upon, in-the-moment make an under-hew to his right side to the head and back around with the short edge to the other side. If it is necessary to do, then war. But if he will make an under-hew after the setting-upon, then in-the-moment swiftly step and thrust in forwards with the hands and the sword.</p>
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| <p>'''The third:''' When you stand as before and he stands forward in the speaking-window or the guard from-the-roof, then go up against him with the wrath-point into his face. If he then sets upon your sword, then you may well in-the-moment wind-in crooked with a step or as soon as he sits-atop, in-the-moment make an under-hew to his right side to the head and back around with the short edge to the other side. If it is necessary to do, then war. But if he will make an under-hew after the sitting-atop, then in-the-moment swiftly step and thrust on in forwards with the hands and the sword.</p>
 
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| <p>'''The fifth:''' When you stand as before and go up as before into the thrust and if he then sets upon your sword from the crooked setting-on from the right side, if he will then work to the right side, then swiftly drive after with the thrust into the war. But if he works to the left, then wind-in crooked, krieg, etc. But if he lies in the crooked setting-on upon his left and will strike against you, then wind against him crooked on his sword and stand still. War into his head. But if you do not wish to wind, then stay on him with the after.</p>
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| <p>'''The fifth:''' When you stand as before and go up as before into the thrust and if he then sits-atop your sword from the crooked setting-on from the right side, if he will then work to the right side, then swiftly drive after with the thrust into the war. But if he works to the left, then wind-in crooked, krieg, etc. But if he lies in the crooked setting-on upon his left and will strike against you, then wind against him crooked on his sword and stand still. War into his head. But if you do not wish to wind, then stay on him with the after.</p>
 
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<p>'''The first''' play: When you stand as in the third stance as above in the speaking-window, if someone then runs-in with force as with the window with its displacement or sword crossed-over and looks through the arms, then set-upon gently. If he then will continue to work wherever he will go, then follow after him with the war, etc. [The war] goes from both sides. Also, if the war goes from his left side, he needs to run-in crooked.</p>
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<p>'''The first''' play: When you stand as in the third stance as above in the speaking-window, if someone then runs-in with force as with the window with its displacement or sword crossed-over and looks through the arms, then sit-atop gently. If he then will continue to work wherever he will go, then follow after him with the war, etc. [The war] goes from both sides. Also, if the war goes from his left side, he needs to run-in crooked.</p>
 
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Revision as of 19:06, 7 May 2017

Hans Medel von Salzburg

A play from Medel's fencing manual
Born 15th century
Died 16th century
Occupation Fencing master
Citizenship Salzburg, Germany
Movement Liechtenauer tradition
Influences
Genres Fencing manual
Language Early New High German
Manuscript(s) Codex I.6.2º.5 (1539)
Concordance by Michael Chidester
Translations Magyar fordítás

Hans Medel von Salzburg (Hans Niedel, Hans Mendel) was an early 16th century German fencing master. Salzburg is a city in northern Austria, and he seems to have operated as a burgher and Schirmmeister there from at least 1503.[1] Little else is known about this master, but he seems to have been associated with the tradition of Johannes Liechtenauer. He may have traced his lineage through Hans Seydenfaden von Erfurt, a member of the Fellowship of Liechtenauer,[2] as Medel's text is the only known source that mentions the earlier master's teachings.

Medel's name is attached to a manuscript treatise on swordsmanship from 1539, including an incomplete gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital and an addendum on fencing based on "the Seven Stances". This gloss is unique in the Liechtenauer tradition in that it not only offers direct commentary on the Recital, but also demonstrates an awareness of the earlier glosses of Sigmund ain Ringeck (from which a great deal of text is lifted) and Pseudo-Peter von Danzig, and even includes occasional criticisms of and corrections to their teachings. In a few places the gloss specifically describes a teaching of Hans Seydenfaden or Hans Medel, but in several more it merely attributes the teaching to "Master Hans" without indicating which one. This manuscript eventually passed into the library of Paulus Hector Mair, who bound it into the current Codex I.6.2º.5 some time after 1566; unfortunately, the extant fragment of the gloss terminates abruptly at the beginning of the section on Zucken, and the remainder of Medel's gloss is currently lost.

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References

  1. Mitteilungen der Gesellschaft für Salzburger Landeskunde, vol. 40. Salzburg, 1900. p 177.
  2. The Fellowship of Liechtenauer is recorded in three versions of Paulus Kal's treatise: MS 1825 (1460s), Cgm 1570 (ca. 1470), and MS KK5126 (1480s).
  3. alt: right
  4. alt: side
  5. alt: defense
  6. the artist/professional doing their work
  7. alt: gladly valuing in the arts
  8. alt: gladly valuing with kindness
  9. alt: right
  10. alt: weapon
  11. eindrohen: to imminently threaten
  12. Zeck: a biting insect, ie: a tick.
  13. alt: closer, sooner
  14. this is usually the term for the severing of limbs/extremities, though can mean hewing while exiting
  15. widerschlagen: to strike against, in a reverberating sense
  16. rechnen: compute, take into account, align
  17. towards
  18. In the standard verse it is 'ab', not 'fast'
  19. severely, precisely, ruthlessly, violently
  20. videlicet: namely; to wit
  21. abhauen: to sever or to hew in exit
  22. alt: high
  23. aufsitzen: to sit on top of something. A rider was sometimes called an 'Aufsitzer'
  24. ausheben: lift out
  25. conjecture, possibly: 'neben'
  26. 26.0 26.1 26.2 26.3 26.4 26.5 26.6 26.7 26.8 26.9 The text here is hidden by a crease in the page.
  27. alt: breaks-apart, shatters, asunders; burgles; interrupts
  28. ansiegen: to return with victory
  29. glance, discern, glean
  30. Ochs
  31. Ochs
  32. Ochs
  33. could also mean 'carelessly'
  34. Alternately: strongly, firmly, steadfastly.
  35. across
  36. across
  37. your leger
  38. rappen: to gather, to snatch, to seize
  39. no apparent verb here. A similar construction appears below with the added phrase: "set-upon upon the four endings to both sides"
  40. alt: flying
  41. mitmachen: join, unite, combine, participate
  42. alternately: old
  43. marginalia: 'malz' => bad, weak
  44. Or possibly "maler"
  45. Here some pages apparently have been lost, unfortunately.
  46. alt: across
  47. alt: inside
  48. alt: misleading
  49. alt: across
  50. alt: open