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15 Listen to what is wrong,<br/>
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do not fight above on the left if you are righthanded;<br/>
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16 and if you are lefthanded,<br/>
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on the right you limp as well.
 
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27 Who strikes at you above,<br/>
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the Wrath stroke threatens him with the point.<br/>
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28 If he becomes aware of it,<br/>
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take it away above without fear.
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Execute the wrath cut with strength.<br/>
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Always remember to move behind it<br/>
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From both sides,<br/>
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Standing still or with stepping.
 
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Do the right winding in the wrath point<br/>
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If you wish to find the face open.<br/>
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If he will defend his<br/>
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Then take it away above without driving.<br/>
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Cut, thrust, note soft or hard in the bind.
 
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29 Be strong against it;<br/>
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wind, thrust. If he sees that, take it down.
 
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42 Crooked on him with nimbleness,<br/>
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throw the point on the hands.
 
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43 Who performs the crooked well,<br/>
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with stepping he hinders many a stroke.
 
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49 The Thwart Stroke takes<br/>
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whatever comes from the roof.
 
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50 Thwart with the strong,<br/>
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note your work with this.
 
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51 Thwart to the Plow;<br/>
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to the Ox hard together.
 
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52 He who thwarts well<br/>
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with springing he endangers the head.
 
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53 Whoever conducts the Failer<br/>
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from below he hits at his will.
 
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54 The Reverser enforces the<br/>
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running through and also brings wrestling.<br/>
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55 The elbow take certainly,<br/>
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spring into his balance.
 
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56 Double the Failer,<br/>
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if you hit, also make the slice.
 
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57 Twice further on,<br/>
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step to the left and do not be slow.
 
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58 The Squinter breaks into<br/>
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whatever a buffalo strikes or thrusts.<br/>
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59 Who threatens to change through,<br/>
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the Squinter robs him of it.
 
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60 Squint when he is short against you,<br/>
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changing through defeats him.
 
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61 Squint to the point,<br/>
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and take the throat without fear.
 
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62 Squint to the head above<br/>
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if you want to damage the hands.
 
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63 The Scalper<br/>
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is a danger to the face,<br/>
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64 with its turn,<br/>
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very dangerous to the breast.
 
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65 Whatever comes from him,<br/>
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the Crown will take it.
 
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66 Slice through the Crown,<br/>
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thus you will break it hard through.
 
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67 Press the strokes,<br/>
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with slices pull them away.
 
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68 Four guards alone hold;<br/>
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and disdain the common.<br/>
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69 Ox, Plow, Fool,<br/>
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From the Roof should not be unknown to you.
 
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72 If you are parried<br/>
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and when that has happened,<br/>
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73 hear what I advise to you:<br/>
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Tear away and strike quickly with surprise.
 
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Another counter against the parrying
 
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74 Set upon the four ends.<br/>
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Stay upon them, learn if you want to bring it to an end.
 
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75 Learn the chasing<br/>
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twice, or slice into the weapon.
 
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80 Who wants to strike below,<br/>
 +
overrun him, and he will be shamed.<br/>
 +
81 When it clashes above,<br/>
 +
then strengthen: this I truly do praise.<br/>
 +
82 Do your work,<br/>
 +
or press hard twice.
 
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83 Learn to set aside,<br/>
 +
To skillfully hinder stroke and thrust.<br/>
 +
84 Who thrusts at you,<br/>
 +
your point hits and counters his.<br/>
 +
85 From both sides<br/>
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hit every time if you want to step.
 
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86 Learn the changing through<br/>
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from both sides, thrust with intent.<br/>
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87 Whoever binds to you,<br/>
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changing through will find him indeed.
 
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88 Step close in binding.<br/>
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The pulling provides good finds.<br/>
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89 Pull - if he meets, pull more.<br/>
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Find the work that will hurt him.<br/>
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90 Pull in all encounters<br/>
 +
against the Masters, if you want to fool them.
 
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91 Run through, let hang<br/>
 +
with the pommel. Grasp if you want to wrestle.<br/>
 +
92 Who comes strongly at you,<br/>
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the running through then remember.
 
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Revision as of 23:02, 8 January 2016

Notes Cluny Fechtbook (Cl. 23842) Paulus Kal Peter Falkner Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341) Jörg Wilhalm Hutter
Folio 12r

15 Listen to what is wrong,
do not fight above on the left if you are righthanded;
16 and if you are lefthanded,
on the right you limp as well.

MS CL23842 012r.jpg
MS KK5012 2r.jpg
Folio 12v

27 Who strikes at you above,
the Wrath stroke threatens him with the point.
28 If he becomes aware of it,
take it away above without fear.

Execute the wrath cut with strength.
Always remember to move behind it
From both sides,
Standing still or with stepping.

MS CL23842 012v.jpg
Folio 13r

Do the right winding in the wrath point
If you wish to find the face open.
If he will defend his
Then take it away above without driving.
Cut, thrust, note soft or hard in the bind.

MS CL23842 013r.jpg
Folio 13v

29 Be strong against it;
wind, thrust. If he sees that, take it down.

MS CL23842 013v.jpg
Folio 14r
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Folio 14v
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Folio 15r
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Folio 15v
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Folio 16r

42 Crooked on him with nimbleness,
throw the point on the hands.

MS CL23842 016r.jpg
Folio 16v
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Folio 17r

43 Who performs the crooked well,
with stepping he hinders many a stroke.

MS CL23842 017r.jpg
Folio 17v
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Folio 18r

49 The Thwart Stroke takes
whatever comes from the roof.

MS CL23842 018r.jpg
Folio 18v

50 Thwart with the strong,
note your work with this.

MS CL23842 018v.jpg
Folio 19r

51 Thwart to the Plow;
to the Ox hard together.

MS CL23842 019r.jpg
Folio 19v
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Folio 20r

52 He who thwarts well
with springing he endangers the head.

MS CL23842 020r.jpg
Folio 20v

53 Whoever conducts the Failer
from below he hits at his will.

MS CL23842 020v.jpg
Folio 21r
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Folio 21v

54 The Reverser enforces the
running through and also brings wrestling.
55 The elbow take certainly,
spring into his balance.

MS CL23842 021v.jpg
Folio 22r
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Folio 22v

56 Double the Failer,
if you hit, also make the slice.

MS CL23842 022v.jpg
Folio 23r
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Folio 23v

57 Twice further on,
step to the left and do not be slow.

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Folio 24r
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Folio 24v

58 The Squinter breaks into
whatever a buffalo strikes or thrusts.
59 Who threatens to change through,
the Squinter robs him of it.

MS CL23842 024v.jpg
Folio 25r

60 Squint when he is short against you,
changing through defeats him.

MS CL23842 025r.jpg
Folio 25v

61 Squint to the point,
and take the throat without fear.

MS CL23842 025v.jpg
Folio 26r

62 Squint to the head above
if you want to damage the hands.

MS CL23842 026r.jpg
Folio 26v
MS CL23842 026v.jpg
Folio 27r

63 The Scalper
is a danger to the face,
64 with its turn,
very dangerous to the breast.

MS CL23842 027r.jpg
Folio 27v

65 Whatever comes from him,
the Crown will take it.

MS CL23842 027v.jpg
Folio 28r

66 Slice through the Crown,
thus you will break it hard through.

MS CL23842 028r.jpg
Folio 28v

67 Press the strokes,
with slices pull them away.

MS CL23842 028v.jpg
Folio 29r

68 Four guards alone hold;
and disdain the common.
69 Ox, Plow, Fool,
From the Roof should not be unknown to you.

MS CL23842 029r.jpg
Cgm 1507 58r.jpg
Folio 29v
MS CL23842 029v.jpg
Cgm 1507 58v.jpg
Folio 30r

72 If you are parried
and when that has happened,
73 hear what I advise to you:
Tear away and strike quickly with surprise.

MS CL23842 030r.jpg
Folio 30v
MS CL23842 030v.jpg
Folio 31r

Another counter against the parrying

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Folio 31v

74 Set upon the four ends.
Stay upon them, learn if you want to bring it to an end.

MS CL23842 031v.jpg
Folio 32r
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Folio 32v
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Folio 33r
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Folio 33v
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Folio 34r

75 Learn the chasing
twice, or slice into the weapon.

MS CL23842 034r.jpg
Folio 34v

80 Who wants to strike below,
overrun him, and he will be shamed.
81 When it clashes above,
then strengthen: this I truly do praise.
82 Do your work,
or press hard twice.

MS CL23842 034v.jpg
Folio 35r

83 Learn to set aside,
To skillfully hinder stroke and thrust.
84 Who thrusts at you,
your point hits and counters his.
85 From both sides
hit every time if you want to step.

MS CL23842 035r.jpg
Folio 35v

86 Learn the changing through
from both sides, thrust with intent.
87 Whoever binds to you,
changing through will find him indeed.

MS CL23842 035v.jpg
Folio 36r

88 Step close in binding.
The pulling provides good finds.
89 Pull - if he meets, pull more.
Find the work that will hurt him.
90 Pull in all encounters
against the Masters, if you want to fool them.

MS CL23842 036r.jpg
Folio 36v
MS CL23842 036v.jpg
Folio 37r

91 Run through, let hang
with the pommel. Grasp if you want to wrestle.
92 Who comes strongly at you,
the running through then remember.

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Folio 37v
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Folio 38r
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Folio 38v
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Folio 39r
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Folio 40r
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Folio 40v
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Folio 41r
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Folio 41v
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Folio 42v
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Folio 44r
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Folio 45r
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Folio 45v
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Folio 46r
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Folio 46v
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Folio 47r
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Folio 48r
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Folio 48v
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Folio 49r
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Folio 52r
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Folio 52v
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Folio 53r
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Folio 53v
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Folio 54r
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Folio 55r
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Folio 55v
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Folio 56r
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Folio 56v
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Folio 57r
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