https://wiktenauer.com/api.php?hidebots=1&translations=filter&urlversion=1&days=30&limit=50&target=Talk%3AOtt_Jud&action=feedrecentchanges&feedformat=atomWiktenauer - Changes related to "Talk:Ott Jud" [en]2024-03-29T06:24:32ZRelated changesMediaWiki 1.34.2https://wiktenauer.com/index.php?title=Ott_Jud&diff=148816&oldid=145651Ott Jud2024-03-17T18:55:09Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Modern HEMA</span></span></p>
<table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface">
<col class="diff-marker" />
<col class="diff-content" />
<col class="diff-marker" />
<col class="diff-content" />
<tr class="diff-title" lang="en">
<td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td>
<td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:55, 17 March 2024</td>
</tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l95" >Line 95:</td>
<td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 95:</td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Of the remaining three known copies, the [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Fechtbuch]] was identified in [[Sydney Anglo]]'s 2000 opus as merely "[R. L.] Scott's Liechtenauer MS",<ref>Sydney Anglo. ''The Martial Arts of Renaissance Europe''. New Haven and London: Yale University Press, 2000. pp 312-315.</ref> but had been fully profiled by 2008 when [[Rainer Leng]] published his catalog. The [[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS 26.236)|New York version]] has mostly been left out of scholarly literature, though it was known by many HEMA researchers and was even the subject of an essay by [[Daniel Jaquet]] published by [[Metropolitan Museum of Art|the Met]] in 2018.<ref>Daniel Jaquet. "Hans Talhoffer’s Fight Book, a Sixteenth-Century Manuscript about the Art of Fighting." ''Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History''. https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/fight/hd_fight.htm. Retrieved 02 MAY 2023.</ref> Finally, the [[Ortenburg Fechtbuch]] was discovered by Hils in the 80s, only to be lost again ever after; microfilm scans that Hils bought at the time were finally the subject of an extensive book by [[Dierk Hagedorn]] published in 2023 as ''Das Ortenburger Fechtbuch'', including the first transcription, modernization, and other analysis.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Of the remaining three known copies, the [[Glasgow Fechtbuch (MS E.1939.65.341)|Glasgow Fechtbuch]] was identified in [[Sydney Anglo]]'s 2000 opus as merely "[R. L.] Scott's Liechtenauer MS",<ref>Sydney Anglo. ''The Martial Arts of Renaissance Europe''. New Haven and London: Yale University Press, 2000. pp 312-315.</ref> but had been fully profiled by 2008 when [[Rainer Leng]] published his catalog. The [[Talhoffer Fechtbuch (MS 26.236)|New York version]] has mostly been left out of scholarly literature, though it was known by many HEMA researchers and was even the subject of an essay by [[Daniel Jaquet]] published by [[Metropolitan Museum of Art|the Met]] in 2018.<ref>Daniel Jaquet. "Hans Talhoffer’s Fight Book, a Sixteenth-Century Manuscript about the Art of Fighting." ''Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History''. https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/fight/hd_fight.htm. Retrieved 02 MAY 2023.</ref> Finally, the [[Ortenburg Fechtbuch]] was discovered by Hils in the 80s, only to be lost again ever after; microfilm scans that Hils bought at the time were finally the subject of an extensive book by [[Dierk Hagedorn]] published in 2023 as ''Das Ortenburger Fechtbuch'', including the first transcription, modernization, and other analysis.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The earliest work on Ott is inseparable from work on Ringeck, because of the previously-mentioned attribution of the Dresden manuscript to Ringeck. Thus, the first transcription of any part of the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gloss </del>would be Wierschin's transcription of the Dresden version in 1965, the first German modernization was made by [[Christoph Kaindel]] in the 1990s, and the first English translation was authored in 1999 by [[Alex Kiermayer]]. Another English translation was produced by [[Christian Tobler]] and published in 2001 by [[Chivalry Bookshelf]] in ''Secrets of German Medieval Swordsmanship'', and a third English translation was produced by [[David Lindholm]] and published in 2005 by [[Paladin Press]] as part of ''Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Arts of Combat: Sword-and-Buckler Fighting, Wrestling, and Fighting in Armor''. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The earliest work on Ott is inseparable from work on Ringeck, because of the previously-mentioned attribution of the Dresden manuscript to Ringeck. Thus, the first transcription of any part of the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">text </ins>would be Wierschin's transcription of the Dresden version in 1965, the first German modernization was made by [[Christoph Kaindel]] in the 1990s, and the first English translation was authored in 1999 by [[Alex Kiermayer]]. Another English translation was produced by [[Christian Tobler]] and published in 2001 by [[Chivalry Bookshelf]] in ''Secrets of German Medieval Swordsmanship'', and a third English translation was produced by [[David Lindholm]] and published in 2005 by [[Paladin Press]] as part of ''Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Arts of Combat: Sword-and-Buckler Fighting, Wrestling, and Fighting in Armor''. </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Possibly the first dedicated work on Ott (under his own name) was done by [[Monika Maziarz]], who transcribed the Rome, Augsburg, Salzburg, and Kraków versions between 2002 and 2004 and posted them on the ARMA-PL site.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Possibly the first dedicated work on Ott (under his own name) was done by [[Monika Maziarz]], who transcribed the Rome, Augsburg, Salzburg, and Kraków versions between 2002 and 2004 and posted them on the ARMA-PL site.</div></td></tr>
</table>Michael Chidester